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Spiritual...Nice reading. 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Lets not use political correctness to protect nut-cases.<BR/><BR/>I agree completely. There is a reason we have the word "evil." Why have it if it has no meaning.<BR/><BR/>Next, you said The problem with Christianity -- and faith in general (i.e. - the belief in things not demonstrable) is that once you give such a system power it is the easiest to corrupt: hence the problems II referred to in Central/South America ... the Inquisition, the burning of witches, etc. etc. etc." <BR/><BR/>Notice that my statement you are commenting on said..."Modern Christianity" and yet you point out practices of Ancient Christianity. And I disagree with the Idea that Christianity "seeks Power" so your statement about "once you give such a system power" is academic if it is not trying to "force" others to join.<BR/><BR/>Mr Wilson, <BR/><BR/>To say that people who have no regard for the freedom and the right to live without coersion are merely "insane"....well now, you are just using a word to describe someone we cannot understand how they make decisions. The Russians put the label of "insane" on anyone who disagreed with their worldview, and we must not allow that kind of thinking to creep into our way of life. People are accountable for their actions unless they can be shown to have "physical" or biological defects that are real and not imagined because of them just being different.<BR/><BR/>You know the old saying, "If a rich person does things that are wierd, they are called "eccentric", while if they are poor, they are called "crazy."<BR/><BR/><BR/>FAR.Free Agency Ruleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10921822140156223630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162879821661399322006-11-06T22:10:00.000-08:002006-11-06T22:10:00.000-08:00"When we deny the existence of God, we create fals..."When we deny the existence of God, we create false Gods instead." - Carl Jung<BR/><BR/>Sex, Money, and Consumerism are the de facto gods (devils / anti-Christs) of the radical secularism that has infected this country. <BR/><BR/>It's as if Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple and they spent the past 2,000 years reorganizing their corporate structure and setting up shop over here.Denmark Veseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607719381212214374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162868338116941572006-11-06T18:58:00.000-08:002006-11-06T18:58:00.000-08:00i am even later than my brother to the discussion....i am even later than my brother to the discussion...no fair chad...II was my friend first...Mr. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076887736533678696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162868248173156092006-11-06T18:57:00.000-08:002006-11-06T18:57:00.000-08:00i need a late pass...and i don't even have time to...i need a late pass...and i don't even have time to read through the 52 comments...<BR/><BR/>rod and i used to debate about evil all of the time. we went through a lot of iterations about what evil was. here are a few key questions i raised...<BR/><BR/>why are people so quick to state that there are people who are inherently or unredeemably evil, yet we rarely if ever make a definitive statement that there are some who are inherently or unredeemably good?<BR/><BR/>people arrive at their current moral and ethical perspective as a result of their past lives. the experiences one has had give them a certain range in terms of choosing good vs. evil, within the limits of their experiences. a person from a violent past isn't going to be able to react to things the way a person who raised in a more loving environment was...how can you make statements about whether someone is evil without knowing what they are choosing between? <BR/><BR/>what is the point of identifying anyone other than one's self as evil anyway? it is meaningless to me whether a thief, or a murderer, or a swindler are evil or not. I am primarily concerned with the course of actions these people take and how to protect myself from them. <BR/><BR/>evil is an abstraction just like love or fear. they are very hard to define yet from an experiential standpoint we all understand the concepts very well. doesn't what one feels about evil (or love or fear) say more about how they experience evil within themselves? how is it that we think we all capable of experiencing love, joy, and happiness...but evil is only for some people other than ourselves? perhaps our feelings about the evil of others is an acknowledgment about what ultimately lies deeply inside of us.Mr. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076887736533678696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162434660219252402006-11-01T18:31:00.000-08:002006-11-01T18:31:00.000-08:00Money is illusory Shark. Whistle blowing is real t...Money is illusory Shark. Whistle blowing is real though. You prefer to be a brainwashed tool for the corporations. I prefer to try to make change that is real. You are a cog in the machine or a soldier for the system. <BR/><BR/>I encourage you to explore further so that you may become part of the solution and not the problem.<BR/>Politics is a dead end.J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162415873232301602006-11-01T13:17:00.000-08:002006-11-01T13:17:00.000-08:00Might I just note, before I return to the battle a...Might I just note, before I return to the battle against evil (i.e., the republican party) that it is of great amusement to me that the nut who rails against 'the price system' is sitting on his ass at home because he made a killing in the stock market.<BR/><BR/>Oh, the manifold ironies. Heh.<BR/><BR/>:-), Stalin the Shark (not evil)Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05712880940637331771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162400328092891792006-11-01T08:58:00.000-08:002006-11-01T08:58:00.000-08:00Chad -- I see your distinction.Chad -- I see your distinction.RRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12196333516263804947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162355682888602962006-10-31T20:34:00.000-08:002006-10-31T20:34:00.000-08:00Thanks for being open minded Chad. Yes I can indee...Thanks for being open minded Chad. Yes I can indeed prove that the cruel , nasty , and inhumane middle eastern god does not exist.<BR/>I assume that is the one you believe in >? <BR/><BR/>How can I prove it.? I am a student of history. If you look at the full context of history, it is very apparent that the whole thing was a falsehood. <BR/>I don`t want to wreck your fun though and there is no accounting for belief systems.J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162344951420119922006-10-31T17:35:00.000-08:002006-10-31T17:35:00.000-08:00ROR,You may not have gotten my whole point about p...ROR,<BR/>You may not have gotten my whole point about personality and choice, because my original post was <A HREF="http://heal-thyself.blogspot.com/2006/10/deciding-to-be-evil.html" REL="nofollow">elsewhere</A>. If you don’t have time to read it, I will summarize by saying that personality in an inherent trait based on nature (genetics) and nurture (past experience) and it can predispose someone to evil behavior, but whether that person is evil depends on the choices they make. My personality may predispose me to kill, but if I don’t kill then I am not evil. Conversely, someone with a charitable personality may be evil, if despite their predispositions to be kind and gentle, they still commits acts that inflict suffering upon others. Evil is determined by what a person does, not by what he has a predisposition to do. <BR/><BR/>Also, rest assured that I think a sociopath like Charles Manson should be incarcerated, because his actions have merited that he is unfit for society. Likewise a genocidal maniac like Hitler must be removed from power. We know their actions were reprehensible, but whether or not these men <B>are</B> truly evil is not knowable unless you know exactly what caused them to act reprehensibly. We can be close to certain that Hitler was evil, but there is always the possibility that he was totally psychotic (which incidentally is not a personality disorder, but is a delusional state). Psychosis does more than predispose you to a certain behavior…it causes or forces behavior. That person is no more evil for their behavior than you are evil for what you do in your dreams while you are asleep.<BR/><BR/>chadchadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11532217111540358449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162342936683659002006-10-31T17:02:00.000-08:002006-10-31T17:02:00.000-08:00Skip,God’s existence is difficult to prove or disp...Skip,<BR/><BR/>God’s existence is difficult to prove or disprove. Clearly, I use my understanding of God as a basis for explaining my point of view, but this cannot serve as a legitimate basis for debate between individuals unless we both agree about who, what, and if God is. My words are a mere expression of how I process the ethical and philosophical questions posted above. So to say that my point of view is wrong or illogical because the foundation of my point of view is invalid (God’s existence) is not a very convincing comment unless you take the time to support your statement that God does not exist.<BR/><BR/>Some might find value in reading my comment (even if they did not believe in God) just to understand how many of their fellow registered voters process things.<BR/><BR/>If I did not believe in God, I doubt I would waste my time responding to those who did when they invoked God as the reason they felt a certain way. I would recognize that they were hopelessly deluded, and could not be made to see issues clearly since their point-of- view was obscured by the notion that God exists. <BR/><BR/>I find it interesting that you think it worthwhile to write a comment saying that God does not exist with almost no argument to support such a statement. Do you think such statements might change my point of view? That the mere denial of God’s existence would cause me to think…”Now it’s clear! God does not exist…now I see where I was all wrong”. Or perhaps you were not trying to change my point of view, but you were merely taking the opportunity to take a verbal jab at God’s existence. Maybe you see this as being a useful or enjoyable pastime, and changing my point of view is not you objective. I admit that I am curious what motivated that comment. <BR/><BR/>Anyway to respond to your last question:<BR/><I>Are you sure you are not just being a control freak , and possibly might be brainwashed also.?</I>.<BR/>My answer is: no, I cannot be sure…Can you be?<BR/><BR/>chadchadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11532217111540358449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162314488237490922006-10-31T09:08:00.000-08:002006-10-31T09:08:00.000-08:00“There are individuals who are evil beyond redempt...“There are individuals who are evil beyond redemption, but their status as evil is not based on their personality, but on their decisions to satisfy the base selfish desires of their personalities.”<BR/><BR/>I completely disagree chad.<BR/><BR/>You seem to completely disassociate “personality” from “decision making” (vis a vi your statement above). Decisions spring from a personality… if the decisions are completely self-centered at the expense of harming others, we call the decisions evil as well as the person making them. We can simply use such objective, scientific reasoning to apply a label like “evil”.<BR/><BR/>If you cannot “judge” Manson evil or not, then the concept has no meaning. An individual’s actions earn him the label. Those actions are driven by decisions. Again, if the decisions you make show NO concern for the welfare of other human being (or, more generally, living creature) society applies the label evil.<BR/><BR/>Whether or not there is an underlying psychoses doesn’t invalidate the label: the personality of “Charles Manson” still committed those acts and therefore the “person” Charles Manson is evil. <BR/><BR/>It doesn’t matter if Hitler was certifiable or not – he was evil. Lets not use political correctness to protect nut-cases.RRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12196333516263804947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162309891574426382006-10-31T07:51:00.000-08:002006-10-31T07:51:00.000-08:00Chad, there is no god so don`t trouble your mind ...Chad, there is no god so don`t trouble your mind about how your Mr.god is planning on punishing people in the after , or present life.<BR/><BR/>That is a fairy tale meant to frighten children with. <BR/><BR/>Lust , fear , power, and greed you think must be condemned by your Mr.god character.? <BR/>Are you sure you are not just being a control freak , and possibly might be brainwashed also.?J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162305670577384272006-10-31T06:41:00.000-08:002006-10-31T06:41:00.000-08:00Insurgent,You aksed: Are there not sociopaths, suc...Insurgent,<BR/>You aksed: <BR/><I>Are there not sociopaths, such as Charles Manson, who are evil beyond redemption?</I><BR/><BR/>There are individuals who are evil beyond redemption, but their status as evil is not based on their personality, but on their decisions to satisfy the base selfish desires of their personalities. <BR/>I'm not sure if Charles Manson is one of these people, because it is impossible to judge whether or not he is evil. Does Charles truly have a sociopathic personality (personality disorder) or is he good-old fashioned crazy (schizophrenics have so many delusions, and hallucinations that it would be hard to judge them as evil, since they are responding to an alternate reality from yours and mine). Should someone who has committed mass-murder be incarcerated? Certainly he should, but should we condemn his as evil? I don't know. <BR/>What I think is much more interesting is that there are plenty of people who are beyond redemption not because of their personality, but because of their decisions to <STRONG>do</STRONG> what is evil. Some of these people may be considered solid citizens of society, but if a close examination of their lives is performed, they are motivated by lust, fear, power, and greed. I think these evil people are under the greatest condemnation, because many of them are in positions of religious/moral authority, and they abuse power to serve an agenda not based on love or service of their fellow man. I believe God has some exceptional harsh judgment for those who do evil in the name of the church or religion. As I recall, Jesus often kicked it with "sinners, prostitutes, and tax-collectors", but it was the hypocritical Pharisees and religious leaders that drew his harshest words. <BR/><BR/>chadchadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11532217111540358449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162260191823086402006-10-30T18:03:00.000-08:002006-10-30T18:03:00.000-08:00I would like to refer people to the top of this po...I would like to refer people to the top of this post and Capt.fogg`s original comment. <BR/>I very much like his take on this post.J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162260081753562412006-10-30T18:01:00.000-08:002006-10-30T18:01:00.000-08:00Well said R.O.R.Well said R.O.R.J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162232103994090842006-10-30T10:15:00.000-08:002006-10-30T10:15:00.000-08:00FAR - "Most Christians "wish" others would accept ...FAR - "Most Christians "wish" others would accept their view, but the modern day Christian does not in anyway want to "Force" others to accept."<BR/><BR/>The problem with Christianity -- and faith in general (i.e. - the belief in things not demonstrable) is that once you give such a system power it is the easiest to corrupt: hence the problems II referred to in Central/South America ... the Inquisition, the burning of witches, etc. etc. etc.<BR/><BR/>Faith, by definition, is irrational. No one every was persecuted for being to "reasonable" -- but they do get persecuted for being heretics.RRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12196333516263804947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162144106859737432006-10-29T09:48:00.000-08:002006-10-29T09:48:00.000-08:00I'm late to the discussion and long winded as usua...I'm late to the discussion and long winded as usual, so I decide to steal your text an <A HREF="http://heal-thyself.blogspot.com/2006/10/deciding-to-be-evil.html" REL="nofollow">leave my lengthy repsonse on my blog</A>. I must say though that this was a very provocative topic.<BR/><BR/>chad<BR/><BR/>PS: I'm trying to not let residency completely take over my lifechadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11532217111540358449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11470309.post-1162088526925370662006-10-28T19:22:00.000-07:002006-10-28T19:22:00.000-07:00There is an old joke about that Far. Communism is ...There is an old joke about that Far. <BR/>Communism is based on mans inhumanity to man, and Capitalism , is just the opposite. Ha.<BR/><BR/>If you studied Economics as you say I think the chapter I suggested , you will find most interesting . <BR/><BR/>The subtitle of my book is , Politics, Religion, and Economics in the Price System <BR/>How perceptions are controlled and manipulated and why.<BR/><BR/>I don`t want to get into a tirade here about the documentation you refer too , but I will say that I quote direct passages in the book we are referencing in my book. <BR/>My book is meant to have fun with. <BR/>Thanks for your open mindedness Far<BR/>I am not a believer , but have been interested in the subject as I can see you are interested also.J.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07637880436646526278noreply@blogger.com