Thursday, May 01, 2008

Dead Dinosaurs?



The image above represents the conventional American wisdom regarding the source of petroleum.

But what if this weren't true and we have been accepting these principles on faith?

According to Bill Engdahl, in Confessions of an "ex" Peak Oil Believer, the Russians have had a completely different theory and have applied it with much success since the 1950's.

In the 1950’s the Soviet Union faced ‘Iron Curtain’ isolation from the West. The Cold War was in high gear. Russia had little oil to fuel its economy. Finding sufficient oil indigenously was a national security priority of the highest order.

Scientists at the Institute of the Physics of the Earth of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Geological Sciences of the Ukraine Academy of Sciences began a fundamental inquiry in the late 1940’s: where does oil come from?

In 1956, Prof. Vladimir Porfir’yev announced their conclusions: ‘Crude oil and natural petroleum gas have no intrinsic connection with biological matter originating near the surface of the earth. They are primordial materials which have been erupted from great depths.’ The Soviet geologists had turned Western orthodox geology on its head. They called their theory of oil origin the ‘a-biotic’ theory—non-biological—to distinguish from the Western biological theory of origins.

If they were right, oil supply on earth would be limited only by the amount of hydrocarbon constituents present deep in the earth at the time of the earth’s formation. Availability of oil would depend only on technology to drill ultra-deep wells and explore into the earth’s inner regions.

They also realized old fields could be revived to continue producing, so called self-replentishing fields. They argued that oil is formed deep in the earth, formed in conditions of very high temperature and very high pressure, like that required for diamonds to form. ‘Oil is a primordial material of deep origin which is transported at high pressure via ‘cold’ eruptive processes into the crust of the earth,’ Porfir’yev stated. His team dismissed the idea that oil is biological residue of plant and animal fossil as a hoax designed to perpetuate the myth of limited supply.

14 Comments:

At 2:15 PM, May 01, 2008 , Blogger Capt. Fogg said...

The Soviets also used to push Lamarckian evolutionary theory for reasons of their own. This idea is as transparently dumb as the inheritance of acquired characteristics.

Engdahl uses the hilariously outdated idea that oil comes from dinosaurs to refute that oil comes from dinosaurs. That's pretty easy to do, it being circular, although he's the only one who would pretend the carboniferous period was so recent.

Sure, we find organic compounds on comets and one moon of Saturn, but they do not exist in molten iron or in magma because they cannot.

Even so, these "mysterious forces" that create oil at the center of the earth have no evidence for them. Mysterious forces are the provance of hucksters, con artists, alchemists and flim-flam men like Engdahl. I might just as well tell you gold is not rare and gremlins are making it in some forge a thousand miles below us. Without evidence you're not going to believe it and besides it contradicts everything we know about chemistry. It's dishonest conjecture put up against a massive amount of contrary data.

Extracting oil or methane from magma by drilling into the Earth's core is something you're welcome to try, but don't ask me to invest and don't insinuate those who would stand to make infinite amounts of money doing it are trying to hide the data - the data doesn't exist.

If it were true, it would be the most valuable and profitable idea in human history - now why would anyone want to sit on it? How could any company suppress data available to every oil exploration outfit on earth.

Put this one in the same grave as the 200 mpg carburetor or engines that burn water or perpetual motion. All those ideas and more have lots of books by people like Bill Engdahl who having failed to become real scientists, make conspiracy crap up to sell books.

 
At 6:33 AM, May 06, 2008 , Blogger skip sievert said...

Fogg is right on this.

What if oil were in fact virtually inexhaustible?.. would this be good news?
Not in my view.
Finding a limitless supply of oil might forestall nasty price increases and catastrophic withdrawal symptoms, but it would only exacerbate all of the other problems that flow from oil dependency - our use of it to accelerate the extraction of all other resources, the venting of CO2 into the atmosphere, and related problems such as loss of biodiversity. Oil depletion is bad news, but it is no worse than that of oil abundance.

Given the ongoing run up in global petroleum prices, the notion of peak oil hardly needs defending these days (Google peak oil M. King Hubbert).
We are seeing the phenomenon unfold before our eyes as one nation after another moves from the column of "oil exporters" to that of "oil importers" (Great Britain made the leap this year).
At some point in the very near future the remaining nations in column A will simply be unable to supply all of the nations in column B.

In short, the global energy crisis is coming upon us very quickly, so that more time spent debating highly speculative theories can only distract us from exploring, and applying ourselves to, the practical strategies that might preserve more of nature, culture, and human life under the conditions that are rapidly developing.
At this time in the United States we are using 1/3rd. of our electrical grid.
In other words we have 2 watts available for every watt we are using... still available.
We could all be using electric cars NOW.
Public transport could also be electric.
Special interest groups have for the time being precluded that.
That is the problem of living in a Corporate Fascist society.
The Illuminists have their own agenda.
It involves making money.
That is all it involves.
Chaos approaches.

 
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