Tuesday, November 07, 2006

A Day of Abstention

I decided not to go to the polls today. My registration is still in my parents' precinct, which is nowhere near where I live and marginally close to where I work. The inconvenience of it all, once I thought about it, was not in any way outweighed by the prospect of punching a card that purports to present a choice between garbage like Schwarze-whatever and the little worm Angelides. My lunch hour at the gym and day off from being the driver in my carpool were far more important than indulging the myth that these alternatives are real choices.

The more interesting races really are in Tennessee, Virginia and Pennsylvania. Interesting, not necessarily because the challengers will dramatically change America, but because of the remarkable ugliness that the races have brought to the surface of "racism-isn't-around-anymore America." I want to see George Allen lose because I would like to think Americans have a minimal shred of decency left. Harold Ford will win only if the people of Tennessee are not as base, shallow, racist, mean and brainless as the GOP assumes them to be. And if Rick Santorum isn't thrown out of Pennsylvania like a beligerent drunk thrown out of a bar, the electorate will prove it lacks the intelligence and sanity of even a basic primate.

Every election season is the same. In order to get what we want,
we have to vote for what we don't want.
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At 1:14 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger Sarabeth said...

I did my part to help Webb win and that racist Allen lose.

At 2:32 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger Intellectual Insurgent said...

Glad to hear it Sarabeth. Partisanship aside, Allen is a despicable human being. :-)

At 2:49 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger skip sievert said...

I like your sentiment here insurgent , and the last thing I would have done today is vote.

If there ever was a case against so called Democracy and politics in general it has to be that the American people supposedly elected Bush as there leader last time around. Ha.

I would not want ten Americans to decide the fate of anything important, or ten of any group as far as that goes.

At 3:07 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger mrsleep said...

Hmmmm II. I'm surprised you didn't do an absentee ballot.

If you don't like Arnold or Phil, then write in a name.

If you don't vote, you give up the right to complain about the outcome :)

I had to vote, because I have one of the all time scumbags in Doolittle as the incumbent. Plus I had to vote on two members running for the local Junior College Governing board. We have had a wingnut powerplay to take over this body during the last 2 years, and we've had plenty of Soap Opera's to deal with.

I've had amazing discussion with very Conservative friends. Essentially they tell me that they recognize Doolittle is an idiot, but they are voting for him anyway because they don't know enough about the Democratic candidate. These are highly intelligent, educated people and THAT is how they make decisions. I'm incredulous. I have a friend who lives in Pombo's district, and he always votes Republican. I saw him Saturday, and asked him how he voted. "Pombo" he said. I passed along some less than favorable news on Pombo, and provided him the audit trail. He said "you should have told me last week".

We have an idiot populace that will determine this election.

At 8:16 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger Sarabeth said...

What really got me very, very against Allen was a speech he gave in southwestern VA. He used a phrase "the real Virginia" in that speech. The particular county he was in is 92% white, nearly all Christian, and almost all farmers or ranchers. Pandering to the electorate is normal, but to use that phrase when so much of VA is urban, multi-racial, multi-belief, and industrial or technological is ridiculous and insulting.

At 9:17 PM, November 07, 2006 , Blogger Reign of Reason said...

Voting is more than your right -- it's your duty...

You don't like the choices: write in a name.

At 6:27 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Free Agency Rules said...


Why do Dems continue to vote for Robert (KKK) Byrd, a former KKK member? Oh, because he is a Democrat.

Why do Dems look at Minorities as people who need their help? Why do they continue to demand to have race as an issue? Because they think minorities are not capable of helping themselves. Becasue they see minorities as inferior.

The Democrat party is the origional "Slavery" Party. The Republican Party came into existance because of Slavery, check your history.


Wow, I find myself in agreement with you on several occasions and none more than this time.


At 7:19 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger skip sievert said...

The store dummy now has a new set of apparel. The dummy is unchanged.

The same controllers control right and left.

The election was illusory and much like an episode of who wants to be a millionaire , or the Super Bowl experience.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

At 7:19 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Intellectual Insurgent said...


Spare me the lecture. I am not driving 20 miles out of my way to write Daffy Duck on a piece of paper. Let's not be silly about this topic.


If all you can say about the Republicans is that they ended slavery 100 years ago, then your party is in bigger trouble than I thought.

At 8:28 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Free Agency Rules said...


Fair enough! :)

I have said more than that and it really boils down to is this....

1. Bush made an error in ever invading Iraq, we could have had "regime change" without the need to invade a country that did not attack us, I have said that a hundred times and believe it with all may heart.

2. Now that we are there, do two wrongs make a right? Anyone who has a brain in their head will know what will happen if we leave before those 14 million who had to risk their lives to vote, can have a government that is trained enough to defend itself.

3. There are those who would rather have another "killing Fields" as happened after we decided in Viet Nam to also leave about 12-18 months too soon, than to admit that we should not leave too soon just because Bush says we shouldn't.

I don't see any compassion for those 14 million voters who will surely be beheaded by evil people who want to control those 14 million, except on the Republican side.

I might be wrong, but that is my sincere opinion and I believe it is valid.

The terrorists want us to leave too soon. There are many in the Democratic party that want the same thing, but now that they have power, they may change their position because perhaps they were just telling thier sheep what they wanted to hear.


At 8:45 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Possum said...

Racist shallow Tennessee voted Corker dear. West Tenneessee loves the Ford family but the rest of us don't.

I guess I'll give kudos to the Democrats and Pelosi. The key now is they ran against Bush and Iraq. What will their next steps be?

At 8:52 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger LNaranjoiv said...

ahahahahaha.....the key is the DEMO's ran against BUSH......

I've heard that on the radio today.. Get a grip. Folks calling the REPUBS doofuses?? Please..
If you believe THEM to be idiots, cause they only vote R because they dont' know much about the D?
What's that say for the OTHER side, who only voted D so BUSH CAN"T WIN??

DUH......he can't even RUN again.

Wow......talk about shallow.

And II??
Vote absentee, and stop complaining. Or, better yet, don't vote at all, and save yourself the trouble. ( given HOW you wrote what you wrote )


At 8:55 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Chris said...

I have absolutely no use for educated people who don't vote. It's a very deliberate slap in the face to our veterans, and makes a mockery of the democratic system. Even if you don't like your choices for governor, there were myriad other items on the ballot that needed your attention. You have shamed us.

At 9:52 AM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Intellectual Insurgent said...

I love the flawed logic. I have no right to complain about the system if I don't cast a "vote" for Schwarzi or Angelides, but I can complain away if I chose one. Puh-leez. That is some of the most infantile nonsense I've heard in a long time. Can any of you explain why my right to complain is dependent on whether I chose one or the other? Probably not.

As for being a slap in the face to the veterans, I had no idea that veterans needed me to vote to validate themselves. They chose to go to war of their own personal accord and don't need me to choose between two dickheads to justify their choices. If that's the case, they have serious issues separate and apart from me.

And as far as making a mockery of the democratic system, it is the pathetic choices we are offered every 2 and 4 years that makes a mockery of the democratic system; it is the lobbyists who buy legislation who make a mockery of democracy. I have ZERO to do with that.

Grow up.

At 12:14 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger mrsleep said...


It's a free country, or it used to be anyway.

You seem a little hot under the collar. To be fair, driving 20 miles is a poor excuse, because all it takes is 10 minutes to fill out the absentee ballot, put a stamp on it and mail it.

We all have a responsibility to make this country what we want it to be and expect it to be. We may pursue different paths to do this, but in the end, the path is involvement. We can be involved by voting. We can be involved by working to influence the decisions of friends, family, or our community. We can do this via direct interaction, or stimulating thought or discussion by blogging, or writing our local editors. We can contribute funds to charities, or political causes. We can volunteer time.

You have posted in the past months that you have chosen to directly influence young people's lives by mentoring certain teens.

Whether you like the dynamics or not of the current political process really doesn't matter. It is what it is. Your single vote in the grand scheme of things may not mean a hill of beans. It is one mechanism to determine who will represent your interests, or how you will be taxed, or where you tax dollars will be spent, or whether you will be taxed at all.

So you are free to complain all you want. If I ask you "what are you doing about it?", and you tell me "nothing", then you are pissing in the wind. Now I know you aren't doing "nothing", but I hope the point is made.

FAR and Leo, can position all they want about Iraq, Dubya, etc.

At the end of the day, the American public said that they have had enough. Now the dance begins between the White House and Congress. One thing for sure, Dubya's legacy is now locked in. THE WORST PRESIDENT in this country's history. Yes worse than Carter, and that took a lot of doin'.

At 2:07 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Intellectual Insurgent said...

Mr. Sleep,

Thank you for acknowledging that there are many ways to participate in American civic life.

Perhaps I am hot under the collar, but this fanatacism for the religion of democracy is no different than other fanatacism and I won't tolerate it any more than I would tolerate any other fanatics. To tell me I can't complain about America if I don't vote is like telling a Catholic she can't complain about the church unless she takes the sacraments. Fuck that. Everyone makes individual choices and chooses which rituals, if any, of the religion are personally suitable.

Telling me I've made a mockery of democracy is like some overbearing nun telling a child they've disrespected god by not going to church. What a juvenile, manipulative attempt to use guilt on those who have differing views. For anyone who believes in that nonsense, you might as well go join Haggard's church.

I've dishonored the veterans, my ass.

At 3:01 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Denmark Vesey said...

Skip, you are right on the money.

America has suffered a coup. It just hasn't been announced yet.

At 3:13 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger skip sievert said...

Right on Insurgent ,
people just love to try to get others to jump through their performance hoops.

You are speaking like an individual here with this succession of statements, and I applaud you.

Group think is rampant at times like this , and I note your appraisal of the situation and agree.

Voting is for suckers and losers.

As far as the troops , there is an old saying ;
Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.
The only way I vote is with my feet when I walk away from the bullshit.

At 3:17 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger skip sievert said...

Denmark , the next few days and weeks will be fascinating. The push to destroy Iran is still the undercurrent.
If a war breaks out in that area , all bets are off , and we enter a very different landscape.
The coup may become overt, and a fight may ensue here. Smoke and fire could be the result , and lots of death.
Wild times,

At 4:10 PM, November 08, 2006 , Blogger Reign of Reason said...

FAR – “2. Now that we are there, do two wrongs make a right? Anyone who has a brain in their head will know what will happen if we leave before those 14 million who had to risk their lives to vote, can have a government that is trained enough to defend itself.”

Too late: Iraq’s south is governed by more than 10,000 militia men who are implementing a somewhat scary version of sharia law on the populace. You don’t hear about it in the news because we have simply given up. That part of Iraq is now simply Iran’s vassal.

Maliki is simply refusing to deal with the militias because he depends on them for his power-base.

Sunni and Shia will continue to kill each other for the foreseeable future: unless we put another 2-300 thousand troops into the country and forcibly stop them – and then we’d have to be there for decades to ensure a transition to your vision of “security”.

The Sunni’s are also only looking after their partisan interests in government: in a completely destructive fashion. The government is a sham… completely.

The Kurds are quietly moving toward secession.

I wish none of this was true, but it is. Our presence there will stop none of it.

I hate the idea, but the best option is now to let Iraq partition itself …

At 7:11 AM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger Free Agency Rules said...


What you say is perfectly logical and has a lot of merit.

I too have often wondered why we didn't institute Federalism in Iraq where there are 3 "State" governments and one Federal Government with the Oil Revenues divided equally. If I remember that plan was suggested to the people who were drafting the Constitution and they rejected it. It was my choice at that time. You make everyone have an Id and then have them move to their "State" or Region. Suni's in one and Shia's and Kurd's in the others. Next, you then control the borders and insure that they don't cross into each others soverign territory.


At 7:42 AM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger mrsleep said...

II, don't sugar coat it, tell me what you really think.

I guess my point is you have to Pay to Play. How you choose to Pay is up to you.

Nice to see you fired up!!!

At 12:44 PM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger bombsoverbaghdad said...

Dang, II, you didn't vote? I'm kinda let down.

I thought Sarabeth would votte for Allen!! ;-_

At 3:29 PM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger Free Agency Rules said...


I love Webb, I think he will make an excellent Senator. He has many conservative values and he is now probably the most intelligent person in the Senate. He is really, really smart and a wonderful person. I can't say enough good things about him.


At 4:38 PM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger Stalin the Shark said...

Yup, we did it; both houses swept, new day dawning, morning in America and all that. Santorum gone, Allen gone, Burns gone, Pombo destroyed, Katherine Harris humiliated - all good.

We also got some really good people elected, such as Webb, Tester in Montana, Sestak in Pennsylvania, and Spitzer in New York. What I'm really hoping for is that they don't repeat the mistakes of the defeated republicans by embracing hyper-partisanship and playing fast and loose with ethics. As it is, nothing is going to get done in D.C. unless you see some cooperation between the parties, and I'm hoping it happens.

:-), StS

At 6:45 PM, November 09, 2006 , Blogger Sarabeth said...

Now, why would you think I would vote for Allen, Bombs over Baghdad? My choices were a man who is so racist that he didn't even want to acknowledge he had Jewish ancestors or a man who has repeatedly shown his intellect and self-thinking. He can be a bit too conservative on social issues like gay marriage, but I'll take him as a senator.

At 8:14 AM, November 10, 2006 , Anonymous bombsoverbaghdad said...


From the comments of yours I've read, you seemed pro-war/GOP. So I wrongly assumed you'd vote for Allen.

At 9:30 AM, November 10, 2006 , Blogger Sarabeth said...

Well, it's good that I can't be pigeon-holed into one party. As for being pro-war, that depends on which military action we would be discussing. I do try my best not to walk the party line of either party. Free thinking is my way of life.

At 12:09 PM, November 10, 2006 , Blogger bombsoverbaghdad said...


Sorry if I read you wrong. I thought you were the resident Right Winger.

Stay Free.

At 1:17 PM, November 10, 2006 , Blogger Sarabeth said...

It's completely okay. I did laugh at someone thinking I was a right winger. My friends at Jarhead's Firing Range would have a good laugh at that. They think I'm the resident left winger.

The best thing about this past Tuesday in Virginia is that I felt I could make a difference. That's a good feeling. Unlike the feeling I had in 2004.

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